1.27.09 ILLUSTRATING WORLD HISTORY? - Making Curriculum Pop2024-03-29T16:01:58Zhttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/forum/topics/12709-illustrating-world?commentId=2665237%3AComment%3A962&feed=yes&xn_auth=noRyan,please take the time to…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2010-11-02:2665237:Comment:455132010-11-02T02:53:37.914ZKatherine Bolman, PhDhttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/KatherineBolmanPhD
Ryan,please take the time to look at ahaafoundation.org I am creating the history of art and architecture around the world starting with Prehistoric Art. These are micro lessons are short and question based.<br />
I want to complete this project and need some additional help. If I could start with a teacher now for next year we might get something wonderful for the world.<br />
bolmanedd@hotmail.com
Ryan,please take the time to look at ahaafoundation.org I am creating the history of art and architecture around the world starting with Prehistoric Art. These are micro lessons are short and question based.<br />
I want to complete this project and need some additional help. If I could start with a teacher now for next year we might get something wonderful for the world.<br />
bolmanedd@hotmail.com These are all great texts...…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-08-06:2665237:Comment:145292009-08-06T02:47:09.597ZMarek Bennetthttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/MarekBennett
These are all great texts... Regarding a couple, I know that INKSTUDS (Vancouver comics podcast) has some illuminating interviews:<br />
Specifially on THE PHOTOGRAPHER:<br />
<a href="http://inkstuds.com/?p=1824">http://inkstuds.com/?p=1824</a><br />
And also in series like this one, on COMICS AS MEDIA, which begins here:<br />
<a href="http://inkstuds.com/?p=2100">http://inkstuds.com/?p=2100</a><br />
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Also, do you know the wordless book THE ARRIVAL by Shaun Tan?<br />
[the best I can do is this link:…
These are all great texts... Regarding a couple, I know that INKSTUDS (Vancouver comics podcast) has some illuminating interviews:<br />
Specifially on THE PHOTOGRAPHER:<br />
<a href="http://inkstuds.com/?p=1824">http://inkstuds.com/?p=1824</a><br />
And also in series like this one, on COMICS AS MEDIA, which begins here:<br />
<a href="http://inkstuds.com/?p=2100">http://inkstuds.com/?p=2100</a><br />
<br />
Also, do you know the wordless book THE ARRIVAL by Shaun Tan?<br />
[the best I can do is this link: <a href="http://www.shauntan.net/books.html">http://www.shauntan.net/books.html</a> ]<br />
Telling of the immigrant experience in pictures, this story really gives you the sensation of arriving in a strange place and figuring it out. Highly recommended for all grades -- older students will enjoy exploring and explaining the real-world connections, and younger students love to note all the amazing details you can find in the sequential graphics.<br />
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And of course INKSTUDS has this incredible interview with Tan, which just throws back the curtains on the book and explains a TON of cool stuff about Tan's career and creative process:<br />
<a href="http://inkstuds.com/?p=374">http://inkstuds.com/?p=374</a><br />
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I've posted a link list of some of the graphic novels I've used in history (& other subjects) here:<br />
<a href="http://www.marekbennett.com/comicsworkshop/links/recommended-reading/">http://www.marekbennett.com/comicsworkshop/links/recommended-reading/</a> Hey Ryan
Back in Toronto, my…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-04-29:2665237:Comment:67222009-04-29T17:23:42.652ZArshi Saeedhttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/ArshiSaeed
Hey Ryan<br />
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Back in Toronto, my brother's teacher used Louis Riel, the graphic novel by Chester Brown to teach Canadian History. That's one part of the Canadian History that he's never forgotten.<br />
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Here is a website for a high-school teacher who uses comics to teach in class: <a href="http://www.geneyang.com/comicsedu/">http://www.geneyang.com/comicsedu/</a> In the bibliography he has some interesting references for books on how to teach using comics as a medium.<br />
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There's also…
Hey Ryan<br />
<br />
Back in Toronto, my brother's teacher used Louis Riel, the graphic novel by Chester Brown to teach Canadian History. That's one part of the Canadian History that he's never forgotten.<br />
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Here is a website for a high-school teacher who uses comics to teach in class: <a href="http://www.geneyang.com/comicsedu/">http://www.geneyang.com/comicsedu/</a> In the bibliography he has some interesting references for books on how to teach using comics as a medium.<br />
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There's also <a href="http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=9&category_id=273&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62">Palestine</a> by Joe Sacco. It might make for an interesting discussion to compare the perspective in Palestine with <a href="http://waltzwithbashir.com/">Waltz with Bashir</a> I'm surprised nobody has ment…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-04-11:2665237:Comment:49422009-04-11T20:58:59.446ZAlice Kinghttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/AliceKing
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Watchmen yet-- not appropriate for younger students, of course (as many of the graphic novels are not) but I would certainly incorporate at least some of it into my curriculum during discussion about the Cold War, or show a clip from the movie. I think it does a great job illustrating the tensions, conflict and fear in American society during that time.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Watchmen yet-- not appropriate for younger students, of course (as many of the graphic novels are not) but I would certainly incorporate at least some of it into my curriculum during discussion about the Cold War, or show a clip from the movie. I think it does a great job illustrating the tensions, conflict and fear in American society during that time. John, Oh man, I guess your la…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-01-28:2665237:Comment:10172009-01-28T17:26:36.661ZRyan Goblehttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/RyanGoble
John, Oh man, I guess your lament above was totally what I was talking about - they end up almost as stiff at the textbook with Big Text tries it - I guess that's why we can keep looking to these cool independant artists who are interested the comic form before the content - Obviously, First Second and then the Women in Science dude is based in Ann Arbor, MI - all science themed comics - in fact one of them is mentioned below by Caitlin...<br />
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Hope page...GT Labs:…
John, Oh man, I guess your lament above was totally what I was talking about - they end up almost as stiff at the textbook with Big Text tries it - I guess that's why we can keep looking to these cool independant artists who are interested the comic form before the content - Obviously, First Second and then the Women in Science dude is based in Ann Arbor, MI - all science themed comics - in fact one of them is mentioned below by Caitlin...<br />
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Hope page...GT Labs:<br />
<a href="http://www.gt-labs.com/">http://www.gt-labs.com/</a><br />
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Thanks for joining in these discussions! How big is your high school in PA? Are you a Penn State fan - if so - Go Blue!<br />
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RRG:) Catilin you are a rockstar -…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-01-28:2665237:Comment:10132009-01-28T17:25:22.802ZRyan Goblehttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/RyanGoble
Catilin you are a rockstar - you should put an image of Mic Jagger or Bono in your profile. Thanks for sharing these links. What do you teach?<br />
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RRG:)
Catilin you are a rockstar - you should put an image of Mic Jagger or Bono in your profile. Thanks for sharing these links. What do you teach?<br />
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RRG:) Yeah, First Second is really…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-01-28:2665237:Comment:10112009-01-28T17:18:38.956ZRyan Goblehttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/RyanGoble
Yeah, First Second is really going hard after the Ed market but their books have lot of pluck ....<br />
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Have you seen their Lesson Plan Collection?<br />
<a href="http://www.firstsecondbooks.com/teachers.html">http://www.firstsecondbooks.com/teachers.html</a><br />
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I haven't read Deogratias yet - would you give it three thumbs up?<br />
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RRG:)
Yeah, First Second is really going hard after the Ed market but their books have lot of pluck ....<br />
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Have you seen their Lesson Plan Collection?<br />
<a href="http://www.firstsecondbooks.com/teachers.html">http://www.firstsecondbooks.com/teachers.html</a><br />
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I haven't read Deogratias yet - would you give it three thumbs up?<br />
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RRG:) Have you seen this LP from NC…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-01-28:2665237:Comment:10082009-01-28T17:16:23.779ZRyan Goblehttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/RyanGoble
Have you seen this LP from NCTE for Persepolis?<br />
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Gaining Background for the Graphic Novel Persepolis: A WebQuest on Iran<br />
<a href="http://www.readwritethink.org/lessons/lesson_view.asp?id=1063">http://www.readwritethink.org/lessons/lesson_view.asp?id=1063</a><br />
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Marvel's 1602 a cool one I hadn't heard of - Thanks!!!
Have you seen this LP from NCTE for Persepolis?<br />
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Gaining Background for the Graphic Novel Persepolis: A WebQuest on Iran<br />
<a href="http://www.readwritethink.org/lessons/lesson_view.asp?id=1063">http://www.readwritethink.org/lessons/lesson_view.asp?id=1063</a><br />
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Marvel's 1602 a cool one I hadn't heard of - Thanks!!! Here are some links to info a…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-01-28:2665237:Comment:10002009-01-28T16:22:48.203ZCaitlin Plovnickhttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/CaitlinPlovnick
Here are some links to info about comics that have ties to global or U.S. history. Unfortunately most of these are probably only appropriate for older teens and adults, but definitely worth knowing about if this is your area of interest…<br />
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<b>Usagi Yojimbo</b> - Feudal Japan<br />
<a href="http://www.usagiyojimbo.com/">http://www.usagiyojimbo.com/</a><br />
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<b>Times of Botchan</b> - Meiji Era Japan…
Here are some links to info about comics that have ties to global or U.S. history. Unfortunately most of these are probably only appropriate for older teens and adults, but definitely worth knowing about if this is your area of interest…<br />
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<b>Usagi Yojimbo</b> - Feudal Japan<br />
<a href="http://www.usagiyojimbo.com/">http://www.usagiyojimbo.com/</a><br />
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<b>Times of Botchan</b> - Meiji Era Japan<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Times-Botchan-1-10/dp/8496427013">http://www.amazon.com/Times-Botchan-1-10/dp/8496427013</a><br />
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<b>Louis Riel</b> – biography of the 19th century Canadian revolutionary<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Louis-Riel-Comic-Strip-Chester-Brown/dp/1896597637">http://www.amazon.com/Louis-Riel-Comic-Strip-Chester-Brown/dp/1896597637</a><br />
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<b>Northwest Passage</b> – Rupert’s Land, 1755<br />
<a href="http://www.onipress.com/display.php?type=bk&id=262">http://www.onipress.com/display.php?type=bk&id=262</a><br />
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<b>Aya</b> – Africa’s Ivory Coast, late 1970s<br />
<a href="http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/shopCatalogLong.php?st=art&art=a4511616c673cf">http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/shopCatalogLong.php?st=art&art=a4511616c673cf</a><br />
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<b>Treasury of Victorian Murder</b><br />
<b>Treasury of 20th Century Murder</b><br />
<a href="http://www.nbmpub.com/mystery/geary.html">http://www.nbmpub.com/mystery/geary.html</a><br />
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<b>Hyperion/Center for Cartoon Studies biographies</b>:<br />
- <b>Harry Houdini</b><br />
<a href="http://www.hyperionbooksforchildren.com/board/displayBook.asp?id=1752">http://www.hyperionbooksforchildren.com/board/displayBook.asp?id=1752</a><br />
- <b>Satchel Paige</b><br />
<a href="http://www.cartoonstudies.org/books/paige/">http://www.cartoonstudies.org/books/paige/</a><br />
- <b>Henry Thoreau</b><br />
<a href="http://www.diamondbookshelf.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=20&s=421&ai=67652">http://www.diamondbookshelf.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=20&s=421&ai=67652</a><br />
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<b>Nat Turner</b><br />
<a href="http://kylebaker.com/www/turnerbaker/turner.htm">http://kylebaker.com/www/turnerbaker/turner.htm</a><br />
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<b>Journalism comics by Joe Sacco</b> – Conflicts in Palestine, Bosnia, more…<br />
<a href="http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=273&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62&vmcchk=1&Itemid=62">http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=273&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62&vmcchk=1&Itemid=62</a><br />
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<b>Barefoot Gen</b> – Japan following the bombing of Hiroshima<br />
<a href="http://www.diamondbookshelf.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=20&s=468&ai=66152">http://www.diamondbookshelf.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=20&s=468&ai=66152</a><br />
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<b>First in Space</b> (to complement Laika)<br />
<a href="http://www.firstinspacecomic.com/">http://www.firstinspacecomic.com/</a><br />
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<b>Fallout: J. Robert Oppenheimer, Leo Szilard, and the Political Science of the Atomic Bomb</b><br />
<a href="http://www.diamondbookshelf.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=20&s=422&ai=63668">http://www.diamondbookshelf.com/public/default.asp?t=1&m=1&c=20&s=422&ai=63668</a><br />
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<b>Berlin</b><br />
<a href="http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/shopCatalogLong.php?st=art&art=a3dff7dd546cfc">http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/shopCatalogLong.php?st=art&art=a3dff7dd546cfc</a><br />
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<b>Exit Wounds</b> – modern day Israel<br />
<a href="http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/shopCatalogLong.php?item=a451165f22c05b">http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/shopCatalogLong.php?item=a451165f22c05b</a><br />
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<b>King</b> – 3-part bio of Martin Luther King Jr.<br />
<a href="http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=704&category_id=313&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62">http://www.fantagraphics.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=704&category_id=313&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62</a> I have something about women…tag:mcpopmb.ning.com,2009-01-28:2665237:Comment:9972009-01-28T15:48:53.782ZJohn C. Weaverhttp://mcpopmb.ning.com/profile/JohnCWeaver
I have something about women in science in graphic form that is pretty good--I'll have to get the title later. It's at school and we have a snow day today. It has a reallly interesting story about Heddy Lamar, the actress, who was originally a scientist. She invented a way to track torpedoes that was never used by the U.S. military, but it became the basis for cell phone technology, though only after her patent expired.<br />
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Graphic texts certainly have a powerful potential to reach kids, but at…
I have something about women in science in graphic form that is pretty good--I'll have to get the title later. It's at school and we have a snow day today. It has a reallly interesting story about Heddy Lamar, the actress, who was originally a scientist. She invented a way to track torpedoes that was never used by the U.S. military, but it became the basis for cell phone technology, though only after her patent expired.<br />
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Graphic texts certainly have a powerful potential to reach kids, but at this point, I've been disappointed in the results--at least those produced by what you call Big Text. A lot of the comics produced specifically for school, for me at least, is almost as boring as reading the textbook. To use an old example, I was teaching the Odyssey and so got the Classic Comics version. It's the most depressingly dull version of the Odyssey I've seen. It's way too prosy and the artist didn't seem to understand the form of comics. A number of the books I've gotten from Educational Catalogues are equally wretched. Of course, perhaps that is only from my perspective. Others out there may find them perfectly fine, and if they reach the kids, that's all that matters.<br />
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At this point in the field, Satrapi's Persepolis, Guibert's Alan's War, Speiglman's Maus, and others like it seem best for teaching history. I'm also interested in following Katie's advice and checking out first-second graphic texts. I've only read American Born Chinese from that publisher, and it is brilliant.<br />
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I'm not entirely sure what my point is here, except perhaps to complain about how little Big Text understands comic book form, and to celebrate artists who aren't producing specifically for schools but whose works would be wonderful for students. On the other hand, maybe it's just me. : - )