RU READ 339/439 Fall 2010

This group is for Roosevelt University's Young Adult Literature Class to have open discuss ion about YALIT.

Twlilight--general issues and question of worth

There's a question I've been curious about since the beginning of the semester concerning everything we have read and have yet to read. Do you guys think there's more to the Twlilight series than meets the eye? What are some popular books that you find are good to bring into the classroom?

I have friends who loved the Twilight books, and I read them to see what the fuss was about. I thought I'd get a surprise, or at least something pretty interesting. Instead, I was met with an underdeveloped storyline, unbelievable characters, and mediocre character development and depth in general. The book was poorly written, and seemed to be trying so hard to be deep and provocative--but it was a miss altogether. Everything that happened was completely unrealistic, and it had nothing to do with the plot about vampires and wolves. A good book will suck you in, tooth and nail, and make you believe anything. Many of my favorite books have fantasy storylines. This was just silly.

I know it is a young adult novel; it meets the criteria pretty well. Parents take a backseat to let their teenage children carry the story. It concerns issues of love and friendship, bravery and taking chances. However, these issues were not explored to the extent or direction that good books are able to. It was about lust, and not about real connection. The friendships were structured and lacked depth and weren't real relationships. Lastly, the bravery and action were frenzied and pointless. Very staged. I felt like saying, "Whoa! Were are we going now? Um, okay...I'll go along." I could feel the book trying to manipulate me into feeling the action--but it wasn't going well. It felt laughable.

The books that we have read work on a much higher level--like the difference between a five-star steak and a burnt hamburger. All of them are different, and we liked some more than others, but all of them work in different ways to get a truly worthy message across. Looking for Alaska, Speak, Make Lemonade, Monster, American Born Chinese, and more. Yes, many of them have swearing, sex, and other controversial issues. However, they possess a worthy depth and substance that I can't describe. They make you feel for the characters and really consider your personal convictions. There's growth involved. There's a good reason for students to be able to read them and talk through the issues involved.

There are some books (like Twilight, in my opinion) that you couldn't have those conversations about because there's nothing to work with. But there are plenty of great books that kids really love that are really worth the read. What books have you guys heard of that you are glad that kids read? How about the Harry Potter series, or even the books that we grew up reading? How about books that you grew up reading, and did they seem like good selections to teach? I'm curious about what everyone thinks about current and past popular teen books.

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    Rosalind Engerman

    I am not familiar with the Twilight frenzy going on now a days....I have not seen the movies, and for some reason I do not find it appealing. As a YA, I was super obsessed with Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and went as far as memorizing multitudes of episodes....So one would think that I would like Twilight, but nahh. If I have this opinion about the films and the hype around it all, would I enjoy the GN? Possibly for the illustrations?? I am totally into manga of many sorts, so maybe this would appeal visually to some?
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      Christina Abruzzini

      That is funny you should bring up the Twilight series. I actually have read all of the books, and I am a big fan; however, it was not the actual writing that made me like it. I just really enjoyed the storyline, but I am also a fan of stuff like vampires/mystical creatures/etc. I definitely see where you are coming from as the book itself is not the best writing I have ever read. Entertainment has a lot to do with why people read these books I would guess. For me, I loved the romance aspect, along with the vampire characters. Again, the writing is nothing special, but I did enjoy the actual storyline. Funny enough, I almost enjoy the movies more. I am a huge movie buff though, so that could be why I am biased towards the movies. :) A book series like Harry Potter though is definitely an in-depth story that brings up a lot of different themes, as well as, a deeper look into the characters. The writing of Harry Potter is phenomenol! Again, I have only read the first book in that series yet I have seen all of the movies! Meghann, you have brought up some excellent points that I have never thought about before! I think the Twilight series is solely for entertaining purposes because it sucks children into that whole fantasy vampire/human romance that none of us will ever experience.
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        Heather Olson

        Two other vampire series that I have really enjoyed that contain significant more depth than Twilight are "House of Night" by P.C. & Kristin Cast and "Vampire Academy" by Richelle Mead. Everyone I know who even thought Twilight was just ok have liked these two series a lot more. I love Twilight for the romantic Edward and the sexy Jacob but these two series have all of that and so much more. :)